Manor now on Mercedes power

"Wheelerguy" (wheelerguy)
10/01/2015 at 10:23 • Filed to: Manor F1-Mercedes

Shit just got real.

DISCUSSION (25)

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Wheelerguy
10/01/2015 at 10:28

Kinja'd!!!

“So, we’re kind of screwed now aren’t we?”

McMike > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
10/01/2015 at 10:30

God I love that image. SO MANY USES.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > McMike
10/01/2015 at 10:32

It’s the #blessed image for everything outside of Mercedes F1

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > Wheelerguy
10/01/2015 at 10:33

This is huge! Old chassis, but they might manage to accidentally score a point or two

Wheelerguy > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
10/01/2015 at 10:33

Not yet. As shitty as Honda is, they’re also a victim of unfortunate events, and it’s not like Manor will suddenly go midpack in just one winter.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Wheelerguy
10/01/2015 at 10:37

....it would be awesome to see Rossi bring home some points.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Wheelerguy
10/01/2015 at 10:38

Sauber did with hardly any upgrades other than the 2015 Ferrari engine. They were pretty much running the same car they ran last year for the first part of the year. That 2014 Ferrari unit is a dog. It was by far the worst engine last year. It was the least powerful, the most overweight, the bulkiest, and the thirstiest. A 2015 Merc unit is probably worth multiple seconds per lap over it.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Santiago of Escuderia Boricua
10/01/2015 at 10:41

Nope, this will be in the new chassis. It was supposed to come this year, but they went into administration before they could finish it, so they’re currently just treating this as a lost-year and have been focusing entirely on the 2016 car. Supposedly even where it was when the team fell apart was miles ahead of what they’re running now. F1Technical had a great thread from one of the aerodynamicists when the windtunnel model appeared. There was some talk about possibly getting it ready for the second half of this year, but I think that the Mercedes switch killed that since they would need to reconfigure the internals.

StingrayJake > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
10/01/2015 at 10:46

I recall reading that this year’s Honda engine had a unique design that, if reliability could be improved, would be pretty salty. Obviously they haven’t been able to get the reliability to a point where they can use some real power, which makes me think a more conventional design might be on the way for next year. Not sure what their token situation is or how much they can change in time for homologation, but you can bet they’ll be doing something different.

StingrayJake > Wheelerguy
10/01/2015 at 10:47

I just don’t expect Manor to really make any big push up the grid. Mercedes obviously has the best power but its customer teams are at a disadvantage downforce-wise. That’s why Williams and Force India are usually toward the top of the speed trap list. Manor will have Williams components and by some accounts will be to Merc what Haas is to Ferrari, but I have a hard time thinking they’ll get past Force India.

Best case scenario is them being in the mix with Sauber, McHonda (unless they get their shit fixed) and probably Haas. Points will still be a bit of a miracle, I think.

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
10/01/2015 at 10:49

So next year they’ll be running 2015 Mercedes engines? Still seems bad

BeaterGT > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
10/01/2015 at 10:53

This is assuming he will be there next year and I hope he is but I think this means Pascal Wehrlein is getting one of the Manor seats.

BeaterGT > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
10/01/2015 at 10:54

And Manor thought they had traction problems before! Can’t wait to see the untamed beast they bring to the field next year.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Santiago of Escuderia Boricua
10/01/2015 at 10:54

I believe the requirement is that they have to run the same engines as the works team - I believe the only reason they're using last year's Ferrari power units is because the car is still from last year.

EL_ULY > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
10/01/2015 at 10:55

fucking LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! OMG best image ever!

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > gin-san - shitpost specialist
10/01/2015 at 11:01

Next year should be exciting then. Rossi could potentially score a point for Manor. Should we cheer for the American on a British team or the American team with no American drivers?

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > McMike
10/01/2015 at 11:04

Fine....work your magic!

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Santiago of Escuderia Boricua
10/01/2015 at 11:08

I think points would still be optimistic; also, there’s no reason why you can cheer on both the American driver and the American team. It's very likely that both teams will be starting races from the back of the pack anyway. Manor or Haas scoring points would require a tremendous drive along with some unique circumstances (like Bianchi's points in Monaco 2014).

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BeaterGT
10/01/2015 at 11:45

Williams are providing suspension and transmission. All they need to do is focus on aero and chassis.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
10/01/2015 at 11:47

“Do you ever remember being in the last placed team?”

“No, you?”

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
10/01/2015 at 12:04

Alonso, “Si, I race for Minardi long time ago.”

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
10/01/2015 at 12:24

Haha, I forgot about that!

RallyWrench > Wheelerguy
10/01/2015 at 13:06

So Manor gets engines but Red Bull can’t?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
10/01/2015 at 14:22

D’you like the terrible english i used for Alonso?

Wheelerguy > RallyWrench
10/02/2015 at 01:59

Yeah, IKR? The lowest pauper of a team gets some ample power (?) and the big team is hard-pressed for one.